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- From: ejszul@obscurity.pd.mcs.net (Eric Szulczewski)
- Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.misc
- Subject: Re: Amiga promotion in USA.
- Date: Mon, 8 Jan 96 17:02:31 CST
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- In a message dated 01-04-96 22-00 Gary Alan Peake writes:
-
- GP> >Jesus, it takes a goddamn sledgehammer to get the concept of "future
- GP> >planning" through your head, doesn't it, Peake?
-
- GP> Nope ... for all you know, Amiga Technologies is presently looking for
- GP> and/or talking to several companies about mass retailing the Amiga.
- GP> Remember Software Etc? That's where I saw and bought my very first C64,
- GP> C128, and A500.
-
- The days of selling systems through bookstores are over. And you said
- it best, Gary: "For all we know...". What's wrong with AT telling us
- (without mentioning names to screw it up) that they are talking to a
- mass marketer or two? Just the fact that they're publicly
- acknowledging that they're talking to someone would be a good morale
- boost. We don't have to know names; it would just be nice to know that
- they're actually speaking to someone in NA to do a mass market release
- of the PPC Amiga when it comes out.
-
- GP> BUT ... to say that they should make some predetermined announcement TODAY
- GP> that 'in the next 6-9 months X Comapny (insert name of mass retailer) will
- GP> carry the full Amiga computer line' would be suicidal at worst and
- GP> ignorant at best.
-
- But what if the deal's signed, sealed, and waiting for the systems to
- be delivered, i.e. at the point when last-minute screwups aren't really
- going to happen? And I wasn't really talking about specifics. I was
- talking (yet again) about a possible ad campaign to build up
- expectation. An ad for the Amiga, not for the Amiga and the stores
- carrying them. Wouldn't the possibility be good that with some
- anticipatory ads, some stores actually might sign on to sell the
- system? Both Apple and IBM had a great deal of success with this
- method before the Apple II and PC were released. Computers may have
- changed a great deal in 15 years, but advertising really hasn't.
-
- GP> You do meat, I do marketing.
-
- I feel that as a meat inspector, I'm a walking marketing tool for the
- meat industry ("Our products are safe! Look at the geek in the white
- lab coat wandering around looking at our product to see that it's made
- in a sanitary manner!"), so I do know a little about the subject. And
- as a person with a degree in Physics, I know something about the
- Scientific Method. If an experiment doesn't come out according to
- predicted ends, change the parameters and start over. AT has to change
- the parameters, and let's face it, Gary, they've got nothing to lose by
- starting an ad campaign for the PPCs later this year.
-
- GP> I'll stick with my successful yet perverted (in your eyes) judgment.
-
- As an empiricist, I've seen what works and what doesn't. AT is
- repeating a course right now of what didn't work for C=. It's not
- really perverted, it's just a different point of view of what should,
- and, more importantly, has to be done. What has to be done is to get
- the Amiga out of the niche market mentality that's pervaded it since
- 1987 or so. I'm not shooting for dominance; I'm hoping for, at best, a
- Mac-level of success for the PPCs. I don't see where an ad campaign
- later this year would hurt. But I will not accept the fact that just
- because AT hasn't shown any indication that they want one is a
- perfectly acceptable reason not to have one.
-
- GP> After all, differences of opinions is what makes this worth doing ...
-
- As long as we don't go postal with each other, it's perfectly fine.
- And through the extent of this long, long, long discourse that we've
- had with each other, we've never done that. We've both made points
- that the other's acknowledged as correct and gone into great detail
- about our concerns over the points the other is making. That's called
- "civilized debate", and I'm happy to be a part of it. Would that all
- discussions on here be like this one.
-
- Eric Szulczewski
- ejszul@obscurity.pd.mcs.net
- Member, Team AMIGA
- I Wanna Be...Gary Peake's...Sledgehammer!
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